MMS Testimonials No. 13 - Lyme Disease (updated 2/10/08)
24th November 2007 by Rett Anderson Posted in Disease, Infections, MMS Information
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My wife is up to 9 drops and her reactions are now very slight to the treatment.
In the beginning she stopped taking it for a while at three drops because almost all her joints hurt so badly. She described her spinal pain as feeling as if her back was breaking.
Now she only has slight pain in her thumb joints. I am speculating that the MMS has done its job in the main part of the body either eliminating or greatly reducing the Lyme bacteria. Now it is getting to the peripheral areas.
She has not yet had the Diarrhea that almost always happens at some point. If she has it at the same point I did, it should be coming at about ten to eleven drops.
I can only hope that it is killing the cyst form and not driving the Lyme into dormancy. It will be a period of months before I will know the answer to that. But, so far so good. She has more energy than I do and feels well at this time.
I am no longer taking MMS myself as I am now on Low Dose Naltrexone for my Crohn’s Disease.
That is all for now.
D B
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I have been using MMS and Rife Treatment on a friend of mine with
Lyme disease. On her first lyme test she scored the second highest
levels that the lab had ever seen. Her last test shows her levels to
be normal with only the co infections showing up. Those were at a low
level also.
MMS and Rife treatments seem to be getting her lyme to die off! The
results so far a promising!
The rife machine we are using it the Truerife with the foot bath or effectrolysis unit.
Alex
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Another Lyme Case:
UPDATE From NATURELOVER 11-20-07:
If you’d like, you can let A know that there’s no need for anyone to “pass on the relevant information” to me because I can still see the thread. In any case, I do appreciate A’s concern but I can’t think of anything that anybody could say really at this point that would get me to stop taking it. I don’t want to go back to the way I felt before, even if the way I feel now is representative of a clinically unhealthier state - which I don’t see how it could be.
At this point I’ve been on the MMS 12 days and I just can’t think of anything I could see in writing that would rival what I am feeling. I am just feeling so much better in nearly every category; more than 50% improved in my more annoying categories - like my feet and my anxiety/paranoia, and I haven’t really run into any downswings in my “cycles” as I call them - the rollercoaster up and down that I was having before with my symptoms.
I definitely still have symptoms but they are all being lessened and except for one day when I didn’t really take care of myself and didn’t get much sleep I haven’t lost any significant ground since I’ve been on the MMS. And I still have a lot of ramping up to do to get to the 2 or 3 15 drop doses a day that are recommended all over the place.
Currently I’m still taking 12 drops once a day. I should probably be breaking those up into at least 2 doses, but it just tastes so gross that it takes a lot of convincing myself to take even just one dose…then afterwards I always think “oh that wasn’t so bad,” but the smell has become familiar and has started to make me queasy before I drink it. Interesting since I’ve still never felt nauseas or queasy after taking the dose.
I still lose a little more hair in the shower than usual, but the drain is not clogged after one shower anymore. Last night I did wake up sweating mildly a few times, and I’m not sure if that is a result of Babs or Bart or perhaps I was just too hot - I did remove my heavier down comforter at one point and woke up a few hours later to put it back on again because I was chilly.
My feet are still somewhat red/discolored (as they have been since mid-August), but I was getting like these ulcers on the bottom of my feet and the bottoms of my toes felt like the entire part that touched the ground was a giant blister for a few weeks previous to my starting the MMS.
The ulcers are completely gone, but there is still a mark from one, a sore that my doctor called a sign of endocarditis a few weeks ago - but that sore does not hurt anymore, and I had another one in my mouth on my gumline which is totally gone now. A few spots on my feet are still occasionally sensitive but it is no thing compared to what felt like total rope-burn over the entirety of the bottom of my foot before.
I must say also that I am still taking 200mg of Doxy twice a day and have been for about a month and a half and I have about a month left of that treatment. I’m also on Malarone, one 250/100 pill a day that I’ve been on for as long as I’ve been on the Doxy and I have never thought that it has ever done much but I will keep taking it since I spent 400 bucks on a two months supply.
I am also taking herbs, right now primarily Hawthorn, Spirulina and Chlorella, as well as occasional Cat’s Claw and the occasional whatever else. I’m becoming somewhat of an amateur herbalist, but what I mentioned by name are the only things I’m taking regularly.
Anyway, the Hawthorn could be at least partially responsible for the disappearance/ lessoning of my endocarditis symptoms, as it is supposed to be the best cardiac herb there is because it is (according to Stephen Buhner) the only herb or drug which slows the heart and makes the beats more powerful - in other words it makes the heart more efficient. All other cardiac herbs and drugs make the heart beat faster, more often; they’re stimulants and therefore can wear your heart out over time. Apparently Hawthorn makes your heart stronger and stronger for the longer you take it and so I wouldn’t be surprised if it is what’s getting rid of my endocarditis symptoms.
The Spirulina and Chlorella are basically for immune fortification and the binding of endotoxins, as well as for keeping my system cleared out - they’re great at taking out all the trash before anything can get clogged up - and even after stuff already has been clogged, like we saw with my lymph node problem about a week ago, which is now totally resolved as if it never happened.
Anyway, yes I am taking plenty of other stuff besides the MMS and I am trying to make sure that I eat right and get enough sleep. I’m a writer so I pretty much work from home on my computer and that’s a great plus for me because it means I don’t have to stress myself out over a 9-5 job; which would probably have killed me a long time ago…..
…..anyway, I just want to make sure everybody knows that it could be entirely a coincidence that all of this improvement has just happened to coincide with the last 12 days since taking the MMS since I am trying to do everything else right, and I am taking other things - but I would also point out that at this point it would be nearly impossible for anyone to convince me to stop taking the MMS for any reason. I plan to take it until I have been symptom free for two months, like many do with antibiotics. Then I’ll keep a bottle around just in case.
Sorry this has been so long, I didn’t realize I was going to be doing an update until I was halfway done haha. Oh well, I guess I get excited talking and thinking about my condition. Feel free to post any of this for those on LN if you’d like.
Take Care, Send all the LN’ers my best!
NatureLover
UPDATE FROM NATURELOVER 12/4/07
I am doing really well, actually! I stopped antibiotics almost 2 weeks ago and have just been doing MMS, acidophilus, hawthorn, spirulina and chlorella. I am doing really, really well.
I am really excited though, I am making a lot of progress, pretty rapidly. I did have a minor setback at first when I stopped the antibiotics but I was able to get that under control pretty quickly. My feet are in the best shape they’ve been in for a month or two!
I really have a lot of hope surrounding this MMS; it is the most effective thing I’ve taken. My endocarditis symptoms are still nonexistent. My feet are doing really well and I just feel better in general. I still do have symptoms but it seems like they are becoming more manageable and less incapacitating.
I am up to a 15-drop dose twice a day, which apparently most Lymies can’t handle. I find that I do get nausea when I take a 15-drop dose on an empty stomach.
NatureLover
12/05/07
I have been unignorably ill since mid-August when I found myself in the Emergency Room with disseminated rashes all over my body; a few of them bullseyes - and a left foot that looked so crazy my PCP thought I had renal failure or diabetes, and she refused to treat me because she wanted my foot looked at in the ER.
I had been on antibiotics from mid-August until about 2 weeks ago. I do remember getting a rash before then and I was sick though I didn’t put the pieces together since before mid-August. I would say I was actually bitten anywhere from May to late July.
I did have a little set-back about a week after I stopped taking the antibiotics in which it looked like I was losing ground, but I didn’t lose ground to where I had been before I started taking the MMS, and I think that I was more frightened than anything else. I have been taking the MMS all the way through and I am continuing to improve.
It is slow but finally my range of symptoms has stopped expanding - whenever I thought I was improving with the antibiotics (except during the initial 3 weeks) it always seemed like my individual symptoms were getting milder but that there were getting to be more of them. Now it seems like the symptoms I do have are getting milder or slowly disappearing one by one and I have not noticed any new symptoms.
I do not think that my improvement is totally separated from the pharmaceuticals I took; I think just the opposite. For several months I would have been unable to cope with life in the absence of antibiotics, and I think the antibiotics I was on did significantly reduce the rate at which I was degenerating. I am not saying they didn’t help; they definitely did. I have no intention of saying that the MMS has done what it has done for me on its own. I can’t even definitively say it was the MMS, of course, but to me the coincidences just seem unignorable.
I won’t be writing anything in any peer-reviewed scientific journals (for among other reasons, I’m not a Dr. or a Scientist). The evidence I have that MMS has been beneficial to me is almost certainly not enough to convince anyone in the mainstream or any official sources; but the evidence is good enough for me, and good enough that I will tell people that MMS is PROBABLY beneficial for Lymies - at least in the short term.
I have seen somebody say “well, I would hate to see a post from you someday that said ‘mms gave me permanent brain damage,’ or ‘mms liquefied my internal organs’ or something like that. Well, I’d hate to see a post like that too. I don’t know much about Cl02, but I do know that it’s not natural and probably not the best thing to be consuming for long periods of time (or maybe at all).
But I would point out that 1) neither are antibiotics and 2) when I was making the decision to try this it was the LYME that was in the process of giving me permanent brain damage, and liquefying my internal organs. At least with MMS, if I see adverse effects I can stop taking it at any time and therefore stop it from doing more damage - with the Lyme I don’t have that option; as long as the Lyme lives it will increasingly do more damage.
If I knew that MMS DID give people permanent brain damage and that it DID liquefy people’s internal organs but that it would kill the Lyme for good - I would take it anyway until the Lyme was dead so that my real problem would be solved.
The problem with Lyme - as I see it - is not that the assaults my body endures on any given day are particularly devastating; my body has overcome some remarkable injuries that it has sustained from the Lyme. The problem for me is that the Lyme is alive and it keeps assaulting my body over and over again, and since that’s the case and I can’t seem to kill it with any of the conventional methods that I’ve tried, I have no problem trying something else that’s cheap (free actually for a sample bottle - a several month supply - if you go to the source Humble recommends in book 1) and reportedly effective.
When coincidentally or not I start healing like I haven’t healed since the first 3 weeks on antibiotics, I am excited to tell others who are still suffering about my experiences.
I will end this now but I am really excited, and hope everything is going really well for you!
NatureLover
UPDATE FROM NATURELOVER 1/26/08
I’m not doing that well at the moment actually. Not because of the MMS, but because I haven’t been very good about taking it for probably the past 2 or 3 weeks and I think the Lyme is reminding me now that it isn’t gone yet.
I know I was going to wait until I had been symptomless for 2 months before I stopped taking it but that didn’t happen as it just tastes so gross and I felt so good that I made the dumb mistake of pretending I never had Lyme; I stopped taking the MMS strictly and had a few nights of drinking and so forth to ring in the new year.
I’m still doing a thousand times better than I had been before taking the MMS, but I am a little down that some of my milder symptoms which had all virtually disappeared are coming back to me now. I have been getting back into the MMS recently and I hope to begin adhering strictly to two doses of MMS a day again starting tomorrow. I have also restarted doxycycline in the past few days and I think that is contributing to my overall sense of less well-being.
I’ve also heard that the full moon has an exacerbating effect on Lyme (I’m not sure if I believe that or not) and I have noticed the past few nights that the moon has been pretty close to full. Again, I’m not really sold on that being a factor but I thought I would mention it so others can make up their own minds.
I don’t know if the MMS actually kills the Lyme or just drives it into cyst form (probably a little of both I suspect, just like anything else, right?) But the one comforting thing is that as much as I have stopped and restarted the MMS, it has not lost its effectiveness; which is unlike any of the other medications I have used.
I’m so used to having to add things to the regimen when whatever I’m using begins losing its effectiveness. So far, nothing of the sort has happened with the MMS. It seems I follow patterns of wellness that match exactly (delayed one or two days) the patterns of how much MMS I have been taking, and it does seem that the MMS takes away symptoms faster than they return.
Hope you and everyone on Lymenet are healing well.
NatureLover
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Sherrie Says:
December 8th, 2007 at 11:09 am e
I have been on it for almost 3 months now being careful to follow the directions exactly as told in the protocol. I have Lyme Disease, and I was infected in April 06 and have been virtually bed ridden since. I was treated early when the rash was first found and I never recovered, which they now suspect I got more than one tick infection. I now have been diagnosed with Neurological Late Stage Lyme Disease with nerve and muscle damage in all of my extremities. Within 2 days of taking MMS I had some energy, the first I have had since I was infected. I have continued with the protocol and am up to 15 drops per day. I did experience some nausea and diarrhea at about 6 drops and no it isn’t pleasant but the feeling after the toxins passed was like a cleansing. I almost felt like my old self once the toxins left me. I also took the MMS while on mega doses of antibiotics for a while and also experienced 3 terrible herx reactions, and honestly I felt like I was going to die, my husband was wanting to take me to the hospital. But after a couple of days, it finally passed, and I could tell I was better after each herx reaction. It sounds like the poster above is experiencing a herx reaction, and you have to get through them and continue, your body has to expel the toxins and it’s painful and that’s really an understatement on how bad the toxins leaving your body feel. But for the first time since I was infected I have energy, and I’ll take whatever energy I can get and I’ll put up with the herx’s from the toxins leaving to get that little bit of energy each day!
My mom has diabetes, and I got her to try it. Day one was 2 drops, day two was 3 drops, when she awoke the third day she said she hadn’t felt that good in years. Needless to say she had us online ordering her a bottle of her own. I’m anxious to see what it does by the way of healing her pancreas and improving her diabetes that she has been dealing with for 15 years. We also activated a small amount of the MMS and I applied it to her scraps on her head that haven’t healed in months, and within 3 days they were almost healed completely.
MMS works, and you will get sicker before you get better, but that’s true of any prescription or protocol that clears toxins from your body. Just bear through it, it’s worth the reward of some of your health back.
February 1st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Thank you all for your encouraging testimonies
I have “late ” chronic Lyme and co infections. I have always wondered what they really mean by late… late for what?
I have taken MMS in carrot juice, the taste is fine, though the smell is bad, of course, since a lot of us are chemically sensitive and it smells like bleach!
In over a week we went from 2 drops to 14 drops divided in 2 doses AM empty stomach and PM before bed
I had night sweat and insomnia too, but it seems to have past for now, so it may have been a gentle Herx
at 14 drops I am nauseous and cannot digest and have diahrea, but I feel there is a good cleansing
the pain in the joints due to Lyme inflammation has hurt more than ever in the last few days, but I continue to use the Far Infra Red sauna at high doses to detox, it maybe why it took 14 drops to have a Herx
thank you all for sharing your experiences
Sky to Clear
April 16th, 2008 at 9:44 am
This was posted by texzred in the wrong place and hence moved here…Rett
MMS symptoms coughing and throat soreness
16th April 2008 by texzred Posted in Disease Edit
I just started to take MMS a few days ago, started w/ one drop twice a day, the next day began a tickle in my lungs coughing, the day after that I took 2 drops and I was exhausted and laid around coughing, sneezing, my eyes hurt. On the 4th day I still feel bad took 3 drops hoping it would knock this stuff out. I do NOT get sick….even in FLU season. Has anyone out there had these reactions to MMS?
No nausea, no diarhea, just a full blown cough cold thing, lungs are phlegmy…help thanks
May 22nd, 2008 at 1:53 am
Brigitte talks about the use of a far infrared sauna as a treatment and I was wondering if there are any others with good or bad experiences about this.
May 22nd, 2008 at 7:25 am
I do not know but I would think that far infrared saunas could bring some relief to muscle pain associated with lyme. Not a curative treatment by any means though.
November 14th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Well, today started MMS/Citric Acid for Lyme Disease. Also bought some liquid Kelp, as someone had mentioned this to be helpful for Lyme. Made a one drop dosage batch, poured half out, to get half drop dosage. Do not want a debilitating Herx. If tomorrow, I seem that I can handle more, will increase dosage. Will keep all posted on my progress. I find that sugar of any kind, agave, honey, birch bark sugar and such, including fruit, only exacerbate the Lyme symtoms.
December 7th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Yes, please do keep us posted. I recently met someone who has had lyme for about 25 years, a very advanced case, who had been very ill who is using MMS with good results. He also does some other alternative therapies that I will post about when I become more familiar with them.
It is important that people who use mms for Lyme report their experiences.
January 29th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Chlorine Dioxides’ biocidal action isn’t actually caused by oxidation, it’s in actuality a result of protein denaturing. This mechanism is a dangerous one, and isn’t something you want happening inside of the body. Tryptophan, which is used in your brain for memory, reacts with ClO2 to create Tryptophan precursors. Over the long term this can cause memory problems.
February 17th, 2009 at 10:11 am
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