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MMS Testimonial No. 14 – a Cautionary Note

27th November 2007 by Arrow Durfee Posted in Uncategorized

Something to take in consideration. This was written by an anonymous poster.
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The stuff in question is ‘MMS’ or ‘Miracle Mineral Supplement’ which is a 28% solution of Sodium Chlorite, which is activated by interaction with acetic acid or citric acid, then is ingested and becomes Chlorine Dioxide in the body.

This stuff is ENORMOUSLY powerful and unfortunately, can be DANGEROUS by virtue of the fact that it can strip arterial plaque out so fast that it doesn’t allow any time for healing of those arteries.

How do I know? Because I’ve done it, and am having heart trouble right now because of it. This is not a negative post. Before launching into this, do not do so without getting and reading the second book, where the author does warn about this very thing. I didn’t understand. Now I do.

Before doing this, if you have the slightest notion that you may have any heart troubles, or even if you’re older than 30, build yourself up first with a full range of L-Ascorbic Acid and natural Vitamin C containing products like Acerola Powder, and/or eat a lot of citrus fruit if you can handle it, for at least 2 weeks previous to taking MMS.

Also load yourself with potassium and magnesium first.

Once you start MMS, it *may* destroy Vitamin C in your system, so it may be best to take MMS only once a day, and take the C products on the other 12 hour side. C in the morning, MMS at night.

MMS can induce the most extreme of Herxheimer reactions. I have bought activated charcoal and have Bentonite Clay on hand to deal with the Herx when I have my next run at MMS, which won’t be for another week at least, maybe longer.

Now to the specifics of how MMS can ’cause’ heart trouble:

The arteries of the heart, the ones that deliver blood from the heart to the heart, those arteries collapse with every heartbeat. Without enough vitamin C and collagen*, they weaken at the stress points. The body packs cholesterol onto these weak places. The cholesterol becomes pathogen infested and turns into plaque. Chlorine Dioxide attacks and strips this plaque, exposing the weakened arterial wall beneath. Then you have problems. All of this is in book two, but perhaps not warned about harshly enough.

(*I have just started taking ‘Super Collagen’ by Neocell, and it also seems to help my heart.)

In just a very few days, MMS exposed and killed a large infection in my right sinuses. I knew I had it but I had no idea how truly bad it was until the MMS went after it.

Don’t jump into this with both feet and go splashing around. Don’t be stupid like me, and a few others. MMS is great stuff, but so powerful that you must use caution with it.

Now, don’t anybody get all worried about me. I’m fine. This has been a learning experience for me and I do believe I’m going to emerge from this even stronger. I sure am smarter already ;>)

xxxxxxx

PS- Somebody is going to come back and say ‘I’ll never take that.’ Well, I am going to take it again. This is in no way to be construed as anti-MMS. It’s just a caution.”

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15 Responses to “MMS Testimonial No. 14 – a Cautionary Note”

  1. Jeff Says:

    I agree with Rett about taking a more cautionary approach with this relatively new substance. If one wishes to begin using any substance (especially one with higher potential for toxicity) they should inform themselves more thoroughly. The US government has a website that describes various toxic /potentially toxic substances (agency: ATSDR), including this one: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp160-c3.pdf. As with most substances, toxicity is related to dose; and while one dose of this product may be tolerated in one individual, another may be seriously hurt by the same dose (polymorphisms of P450 enzymes). Ths profile of “MMS” is not scary at low doses, but I am concerned about longterm effects on liver (animal studies show pathology), local irritation (GI and lung), and depletion of natural antioxidants (glutatione).

  2. Arrow Durfee Says:

    Yes, there is a lot to learn about MMS. The only person I am aware of who has been on it long term is Jim Humble at 6 drops a day as a maintenance dose. There may be others out there but I haven’t seen or heard from them.

    Any negative experiences with MMS, I will gladly post here if I feel that they are credible.
    And by the way, I didn’t write the above post. I will go back and clarify that.

    When I take MMS, usually 2 doses a day am and pm, I take ALA supplementation at mid day. Can’t say if that helps the glutathione issue or not.

  3. angela Says:

    Thank you for the medical advises, I am very preoccupied in keeping my health and yet there are some things I don’t know. I am focused on natural food supplements and natural vitamins but I am not quite familiar with the correct combination of these products. We could all use a detailed vitamin discussion.

  4. Frank Says:

    I worked up to 12 drops for UC and I herxed so bad I thought I was going to pass out, but after that I felt a bit better. I will never take on an empty stomache again.

  5. Ralph Says:

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but MMS does not work that fast on plaque. If you had something happen in that short a period of time if was not MMS that did it. It does remove it..but molecules at a time over a long period of time.

  6. Galpin Says:

    Have any others tried using MMS for stripping arterial plaque? I have been using MMS for 1 week. I started with one drop and felt a very little bit of nausea. The following day, 2 drops were used on 3 occasions. No nausea. Today I am up to 9 drops and will use 3 times during the day. No nausea. I will not go (at this stage) past 10 drops 3 times per day. Anybody care to comment?

  7. Galpin Says:

    I am into week 3 and although I said I wouldn’t go beyond 10 drops, I did. I felt as though nothing was happening. I still get angina. I went to 15 drops 3 times a day, no nausea and still nothing happened. I took a chance and went to 20 drops and felt nausea. I backed off to 18 drops 3 times a day, no nausea. Today 19 drops 3 times today, no nausea. I am about to go to bed. Tomorrow back to 20 drops and see what happens.
    I am raising the drop count because I weigh in at 108 kilograms. If I get to 27 drops 3 times a day, I will know, as I have read somewhere else, that I have reached the amount required for a larger person.
    This area has gone quiet. Any comments from anyone?

  8. Arrow Durfee Says:

    Galpin,

    I have not found many testimonials on the use of MMS with cardiac or vascular disease so I cannot make any recommendations regarding MMS. I suggest that you visit this forum and learn what these people know to improve your cardiac and vascular health.

    http://www.afibbers.org/

  9. Melinda Says:

    I have severe heart disease and atherosclerotic vascular disease throughout my entire body. My lipoprotein (a) levels have been off the charts for a number of years. I started using MMS1 on April 30th of this past year. Let me tell you – it definitely does strip off arterial plaque. And there is a need for caution, as I DID experience a blockage when I was at 23 drops. I felt a piece of plaque break off and clot the artery in my brain, blocking blood-flow. I didn’t actually feel it “break off,” but I did indeed feel the blood being blocked. It was a very “depressing” sensation, as if literally there was no oxygen getting to my brain, which was in fact, the case! It went away from a minute or two and then came back even stronger. I got very scared at this point and was this close to going to the ER, but I decided to eat something and see if that would raise my blood pressure enough to push the blockage out. I felt terrible for the next few hours but did not have to go the ER. My point is, if u use too much MMS you can absolutely rip off a big piece of plaque. I have now been on MMS1 on and off since April 30th. Today is Sept 17th. I started MMS2 about a month ago, and that seems to help also. I have had a very small improvement in my condition in the time I’ve been using MMS. My preliminary opinion is that it does work, but it simply depends how much plaque u have in your arteries. As my condition is severe, and as u only take a tiny amount of MMS at a time, it’s logical to assume that rehab will be prolonged. I’ve been on a ten-drop protocol, hourly, for the past month or so, and I’m going to drastically increase my drops again. I need to push this as high as possible. I would definitely recommend MMS2 also. The first time I took it I felt a horrendous fatigue in my heart – a crushing sensation. The hypochlorous acid was attacking the plaque in my heart. Now a month later, I feel that my heart doesn’t have to beat as hard as it used to. It feels a little relieved. That’s my experience so far.

  10. Arrow Durfee Says:

    Thats a pretty scary story you tell about the plaque in your artieries. Since your situation is severe and what the doctors offer is not all that helpful I won’t tell you to stop but I am sure you are aware of the risks from what you have written.

    It is in this kind of case of vascular and heart disease that Jim Humble ever put out any type of warning that there could possibly be a problem. If you yourself say that there is a need for caution why increase the dosage? I would be inclined to decrease the dosage and go slower.

    I have some excellent articles on cardiovascular disease you may want to look at. See the column to the left and click on cardiovascular.

    I will share a few ideas. If you are doing 10 drops every hour or two do not increase it. Going faster may not be of help in your case. Since you feel that plaque already is decreasing and moving what is the hurry? Since you already feel a little better what is the hurry?

    If it were we with such severe vascular disease I would add a couple of things to my protocol. It is well known that inflammation is a big part of vascualar disease so maybe taking something to reduce inflammation with be of assistance to you.

    Look into serrapeptase. It is an enzyme that will also eat at the plaque and reduce inflammation at the same time. I do not anticipate that big chunks of plaque will come off. Serrapeptase will eat at it one molecule at a time. Go to http://www.serrapeptase.net for further info. I use Doctor’s Best brand found at http://www.iherb.com

    Then I would also add pycogenol. Pycogenol (pine bark extract from Source Naturals) helps to prevent blood clots and is also a great anti-inflammatory. Many studies have been done on it. I use 150mg pill from Source Naturals, also found at http://www.iherb.com

    Two other products to seriously consider is niacin (it must be the kind that does cause a flush) and vitamin K2.

    You should also be on enzyme Coq10 100 mg 3 x day. So many studies have proven its helpfulness in cardiac disease.

    Remember that removing plaque is not the whole cure. You must really work on your diet and other things that may have caused this condition. Aside from plaque removal healing needs to take place. I do not see MMS as a healing agent, I see it as a detoxifier. Of course detoxifying lends to better healing but it is not the whole of the matter.

    Please keep us informed on how it goes for you.

  11. Jonathan Campbell Says:

    If this is what MMS does to people who have cardio disease, don’t you understand that it’s dangerous to everyone? Cardio disease is UNIVERSAL in the human population (Rath and Pauling, 1991).

    Folks, I can’t stress this enough. This stuff is really bad for you. See my article at http://www.cqs.com/mms.htm

    The articles on plaque above may indicate that the chlorine dioxide has gotten into the bloodstream and OXIDIZED the plaque, making it hard, brittle, and likely to cause a stroke. Terrific.

    The stuff is a fraud. Humble doesn’t know his chemistry (yes, there IS elemental chlorine produced when you activate MMS), and he doesn’t know his physiology (no, chlorine dioxide is NOT absorbed through the stomach wall, and no, if chlorine dioxide attached itself to a red blood cell that cell would self-destruct. Chlorine dioxide is used to DESTROY blood in disinfecting operations). And eating hypochlorous acid (which is ALSO produced when MMS is activated) is not a good thing. This potent oxidizing chemical is produced in tiny quantities by white blood cells when they have wrapped themselves around a bacterium. In larger quantities, hypochlorous acid destroys everything in its path, like mucous membrance. Chlorine dioxide itself is similar.

    Humble’s claims are unraveling fast. Here he is speaking about his achievements:

    Jim Humble: …I did things like set up A-bomb tests. I worked on Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. I was able to wire the first computer-controlled machine in the United States at Hughes Aircraft Company.

    These were done in the early 1950s. That would make him 80.
    OK, maybe he’s 80. But can he show us a little bit of documentation about his involvement in these activities?

    Why are his photos of his meetings with African women in his book touched up with a photo editing program (there is a classic touch-up halo around the pictures of the women).

    Why are there no documentation references for his work in Africa, except the ones that he writes? Why are people who visit the African countries where he supposedly did his work unable to find anyone who knows of Humble or MMS?

    Why doesn’t anyone else see the illogic of “not taking Vitamin C” when you are using MMS long term? Vitamin C is critical for immune health and dozens of metabolic processes. If you deplete it – which MMS does – you will die.

    Regards
    Jonathan Campbell
    Health Consultant

  12. Arrow Durfee Says:

    You are so so wrong. Many many people have taken fairly high doses of mms and did not die of scuvy or lack of vitamin c.

    I don’t know why you think you know so much. Many many doctors are using mms now and many people are being trained in its application. I have seen some pretty serious diseases cured with it. Jim has also had some pretty knowlegable scientsts looking at it.

    Far as I can tell your are wasting your breath and overexerting your typing skills.

  13. John Says:

    I need something as I have angina. I’m weighing the the options between Angioprim and MMS. I’ve used both, but I’m not sure. Any thoughts?

  14. Arrow Durfee Says:

    I recommed that you start by reading this
    http://www.healthsalon.org/168/the-ultimate-solutions-to-heart-disease-stroke-and-alzheimers-part-1/

    I think there may be 6 parts. Start implementing it. You may also need some chelation therapy. IV chelation works the fastest and a couple of those followed by oral chelation is what some people do to get them over the initial hump quicker.

    You should also look into oral vitamin c therapy in the lipsomal form that can help clear vessels also. http://www.livonlabs.com take it with flushing niacin and vitamin K2

    I cannot say about Angioprim specifically as I do not know this chelation product. MMS, they say will chelate the vessels also but I have not had direct experience with it and a few people have said that it goes too fast and may contribute to stroke if there is a lot of clogging as the peices will come off too big… I don’t know. I think I would opt for the more time tested options..

    And don’t forget about serrapeptase…. http://www.serrapeptase.info
    I have found Doctors Best from http://www.iherb.com to work very well
    This will clear out the vessels also and reduce the inflammation often found in the veins.

  15. Dave Says:

    Hi, I know this is an MMS discussion forum, though with regards to what Melinda wrote in about arterial build up. My father had 90% blockages in the arteries surrounding his heart and was advised to have an operation. He was given maximum 1 year to live. He decided to not have the operation as he had researched and found that it actually caused far more problems, health wise, than not having it. More people actually died in the first year of having the operation than those not having it! Not to mention a whole range of other problems were reported by those who decided to have it done. Instead he decided to have a supplement called Serrapeptase. It’s an enzyme which has been used in Europe and Japan for the last 30 years to treat mainly arterial build up. Since starting it my father felt much better. He is able to do things he hadn’t been able to do previously. It’s now over a year since his diagnosis and feels better than ever. He had severe chest pain whenever he used to try to do simple things, such as rake the leaves from the garden. Now he is marching up steps 2 at a time. Not even breaking a sweat. If anyone is seriously worried about cholesterol build up I cannot recommend Serrapeptase enough. I’ve seen the proof. Thanks.

    P.S. I personally have a persistent case of fungal sinusitis which up till now, nothing can stop. Only MMS is improving it.

    Thanks again,
    Dave