MMS Hepatitis C
20th March 2008 by seaturtle Posted in Disease, MMS Information
I have Hepatitis C, Type 1b. My transaminases are elevated (double the normal ranges) and have extremely high virus load (Over 14 million IU/ml). Faced with the possibility of spending my next year on peg-interferon/rivabirin I decided to try MMS. I started taking the drops 3 days ago. If there is interest, I would be willing to post the results and perhaps provide more details.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Hello Seaturtle,
Please do post your results on this page you created.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:29 am
Hi Seaturtle. I would like to hear your results too but I would also like to know what stage you are in now and how you feel. I am not interested in your alt, ast or viral load as those will fluctuate all the time with or without MMS but please do share how you FEEL as that would be most important to know that if you are now chronically fatigued and then suddenly you can get out of bed again I would find that very intriguing. Good luck! Remember though that nothing will kill the virus except interferon and ribavirin but if the MMS makes you feel better, doesn’t damage the liver and might slow the progression than I would be all for it! BTW I know people with viral loads at over 100 million. The number isn’t really important as it isn’t indicative of damage being done to the liver. It only becomes important before, during and after treatment to find out if you clear. Why have you decided not to try treatment?
Peace
March 21st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I thought that MMS can kill the HepC virus. For me, that is the whole point of taking it. I have seen several testimonies (albeit I find many of them suspect) that state having been cured of HepC. Jim Humble also claims the same.
Regarding how I feel, before taking the MMS I felt fine. Had no symptoms whatsoever. Only found that I have the virus because my liver enzymes were elevated. Since taking MMS, I have had bad diarrhea and now I have a dull pain in my liver.
I know that the viral load does not necessarily corresponds to liver damage and I also know that it fluctuates naturally. My doctor discussed this with me. However I would expect to have a significantly lower viral load after 3 weeks of MMS, at least 2 logs. If I don’t, then I can’t see the use of this therapy for HepC in my case. My doctor informed me that if I start the peg-interferon therapy, I would have a viral load test after 1 month and then 2 months later. If I did not have a viral load reduction by at least 2 logs after 3 months, he would recommend suspending the therapy because I would be unlikely to respond to the treatment.
About your last point, I decided to try MMS because of the claims that it clears the virus in a very short time. If I can achieve a 2 log reduction or more I will be extraordinarily happy, will continue taking MMS in spite of its side effects and will not undergo the peg-interferon/rivabirin therapy.
Thanks
March 23rd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
*I thought that MMS can kill the HepC virus. For me, that is the whole point of taking it.*
If MMS could really kill the Hep C virus we would ALL be taking it!
Please do keep posting about it though SeaTurtle and thanks. I will be SHOCKED if you have a 2 log drop as nothing kills the Hep C virus except interferon and ribavirin but IF you do I would most definitely want to know as would the thousands of others who have Hep C and either treatment has failed them or they can’t take it. Your doc is quite right that he can tell at 4 weeks if you are going to be a responder or not and at 12 weeks it has to be at least a 2 log drop or you would either stop or consider changing to the *other* interferon or even daily Infergen.
Again GOOD LUCK!
Peace
Pam
March 24th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Hello Pam, I hope you will be shocked soon
. I expect my results some time this week. If the MMS has not done the job it is supposed to do, I guess I will start on the peg-interferon treatment. If that fails, I would consider another interferon depending how bad my side-effects could be. If these are bad…. then no idea. So far I have no symptoms and only mild fibrosis. Perhaps I could be one of the lucky ones where the disease does nor progress to cirrhosis or liver cancer.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
A big disappointment. My doctor has just called with the results of my viral load test. It went down from 7.16 logs in January to 6.67 logs last week. This decrease is well within the normal range of load fluctuation.
March 26th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Dear Seaturtle,
Please dont stop taking the MMS no matter what anyone says and dont give up hope, keep it up, K:)
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 am
Hi Seaturtle and all.
I have Hep C also (type 1A). I started the MMS about 3 weeks ago but haven’t reached the 15 drops twice a day yet… I had to back down to 12 drops due to nausea. I do know that the viral load fluctuates, however, it is used as the indicator to show if treatment is working or not. I have had the virus for about 26 years… I found out about 4 years ago after being so sick that I could hardly move. The past 4 years have been quite a struggle and I have been pretty fatigued. I have tried lots of herbs and supplements but nothing really worked. A little over a year ago I started the raw food diet and that really changed my life and I’ve started to feel somewhat “normal” again. I did want to say that I was able to get my viral load down from 32.5 mil to just over 1 mil with diet. A blood technician thought that that was amazing and that I should tell the Dr.s… but of course the dr.s weren’t interested or didn’t believe it.
I am hoping that the MMS will help to eliminate the virus altogether.
I hope to hear more from your experience Seaturtle.
Peace, VFH
April 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm
I have successfully destroyed the herpes viruses with MMS. I know this to be true. In the first two months of taking MMS, everytime I overdid it I would get first diarrhea, second a Herpes outbreak. I put activated MMS on every outbreak and the sores healed up in 2 days instead of taking 10 days. I envisioned the MMS I put on those sores following the path the virus took to the outbreak site, backwards back to headquarters, and wiping out the nest. After two months, when I would overdo the MMS, no Herpes. It’s been 4 months now, and no Herpes. The really big test was on the 13th of April, I burned my lip with a hot pan, trying to drink tea out of it while camping. Within two days, my lip went from sore to red to the skin blistering and then the skin dying where it got burnt the worst, and then a raw spot, and this in the past would have always caused a herpes outbreak, but it didn’t this time. So it took less than 2 months to kill Herpes.
I also have Hep C and realize how difficult it will be to destroy it with MMS. Think about it. The MMS works in the bood stream. The virus replicates in liver cells, not in the blood stream. So while the ones in the blood stream may be destroyed, and my viral load went down 33% in just 5 weeks of taking MMS, that doesn’t count the ones in the liver cells, only the ones floating freely that happen to be in that tiny percentage of blood that is taken for testing.
Plus there is the size of the virus, it is one of the tiniest viruses known. The small pox virus is huge compared to it. Stephen Buhner compares the two. In his book, Herbs for Hepatitis C and the Liver, he writes that if a person was to take 3,000,000 small pox viruses and lay them out one layer deep, they would about be the size of a period. Like that one. Of course it would depend on the font, say, 10 point. And the size of your screen, but you get the idea, small.
Now imagine that the small pox virus is the size of a brick, the regular ones they build houses with. Put a blue berry on top of it and that blueberry is the size of a cold virus. The HCV virus is 1/3 of that size, the size of a wild bluberry. 30-35 nanometers, (one thousandth of a millionth of a meter).
Meanwhile, the big pharma is alive and well in America and regulating any cure that won’t make them money, that will cut into that $1000 a week treatment plan for this epidemic. In China and in other countries they have been curing Hep C for decades with herbs, diet and other natural therapies. But you won’t find them here in mainstream medicine. Our pharma companies are a huge lobby, too, and are behind bills to prevent the sale of herbs and alternative medicine. And they know they can make a lot of money by being downstream from disease. Doctors prescribe a drug, then the person will need another drug for the side effects, then another for those side effects, etc.
My sister’s doctor told her what drugs are. Chemical copies of the therapeutic substances in herbs. Chemical, so they can be patented. Synthetic, and they all cause side effects that most herbs don’t cause. Why? Ask God. I think herbs have protectants in them that prevent the side effects. A drug is like refined sugar or flour. Both are hard on the body, as the balancing qualities have been removed. Flour without the bran is constipating, and sugar without the nutrients, the minerals that make it naturally brown, is way too hard on the liver and the pancreas. Drugs are worse, actually.
So I’m not spending my money (no insurance) on a treatment that causes more side effects and long term problems than the virus itself does. And lucky for me, I guess, when I found out I had it, I already had many of the side effects of treatment, such as low platelets, lethargy, and others. I’ve talked to people who finished treatment, who had to stop treatment, who wonder when the side effects will end, who had to quit treatment and now have long term side effects and want to sue Roche. Friends have lost their teeth, their hair went white or fell out or both, their livers were destroyed by the drugs, or their kidneys, or they have died, or or or. I’m not doing chemotherapy!
I’m going to keep taking what I’m taking and that is my choice. And to those who choose to do Chemo, I send my best and support their choice. And to those who don’t, I also send my best and support their choice. We all know that for type 1, which is 70% of infected folks, Chemo only works half the time, and the chances of the virus coming back in 6 months is a whopping 70%, which means that only 30% of 50% will have an SVR. So when someone says that “nothing will kill the virus except Peg and Rib” well, we all know that isn’t true. Some people’s own immune systems have killed it without any help. And only 15% of those with type 1 have been cured. 50% x 30% = 15%. The other 85% are still sick or dead.
“We don’t see things as they are; we see things as we are.” Anais Nin
I am continuing to seek alternative therapies to Peg and Rib. I am not going to poison my body with those toxic chemicals. Right now, I’m taking Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultimate Probiotic Formula. It restores the damage done to the intestines by Hep C. Already I can see the positive results. All organs and systems rely on the health of the digestive tract. Proper digestion is essential for the body to absorb and utilize the nutrients it needs. In addition, 75% of the cells necessary for the immune system to function effectively are connected to the gastrointestinal tract.
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April 25th, 2008 at 4:55 am
Hi Kathy,
I admire your determination. Thats the way to go. You should educate yourself and find solutions which have minimum side effects to your body. Have you looked on Virgin Coconut oil and its health benefits? There is a lot of studies showing that it is anti viral, anti fungal, anti bacterial. As a side benefit will boost your metabolism and help you burn excess fat.
Best luck to all of you.
June 8th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Hi,
I also have hep-c as well as CMV, EBV, HHV-1&2, zoster and HHV-6. Also have a low level mycoplasm. I am now on my 2nd day of 15 drops taken 3 times a day.
I’ve been taking it slow - starting 2 weeks ago with 1/2 a drop. I’d just had a minor shingles outbreak at the base of my spine (where all herpes viruses lay dormant) and the night following my first dose, I soaked my bedsheets. I had a backache for a few days but I continued to gradually increase the dose. I haven’t had any noticeable problems - no nausea or vomiting. (yet…)
I also chose not to undertake the current hep-c treatment. I’m genotype 1b and had very little damage on my 2003 biopsy - I’ve probably had the virus for 35 years. I take a huge amount of supplements, primarily milk thistle, ALA, NAC and a host of others.
I’ve been on a gluten-free diet for the last 5 months and it was a great help! No more IBD or stomach bloating and my fibromyalgia/chemical sensitivy is much reduced. I also eat lots of veggies and fruits, though I’ve eliminated any vitamin c while I’m taking mms at 3 times a day.
My liver function tests are pretty good but my ALT/AST are slightly elevated. My viral load is fairly low. (at last test anyway..) However, my herpes viruses are going wild - despite Valtrex, Lysine, and Olive leaf extract.
So, my great new doctor suggested MMS and here I am. I had my mercury amalgams removed earlier this year and have been on chlorella and chelaco for chelation - my doc thinks that it will be easier on my liver to do it the oral chelation way.
I told her that I’d be a willing guinea pig for mms, lol, so I will update here again on my progress.
Good luck to all,
Nola Chris
August 20th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Hi. My name is Sydney and last August I found out that I had acute hepatitis C. I treated immediately and I’m happy to say that I was cured. I’m fortunate because acutes don’t have to treat quite as long, although I did treat for almost seven months when apparently I only needed to treat for three months as an acute. MMS will not cure your hepatitis c and I hate that there are snake oil salesmen who make money off of people who are sick and delay them from getting the treatment that can actually cure them. Believe it or not, the pharmaceutical companies frequently provide free treatment meds to people who can’t afford the medication to treat their hepatitis c. I was shocked about that too but it’s true. There is an entire community of people with hepatitis c at medhelp.org. You just have to go to the hepatitis c forum when you get there. I have to say that we aren’t very nice to people who come there and try to sell bogus cures like mms, but we support anyone with hepatitis c, or anyone who has a relative with hepatitis c, and I would never have made it through treatment without the wisdom and support of the members there. I found that many of my doctors knew a lot less than the members at medhelp. I was really surprised at the ignorance of many in the medical community. They don’t keep up with the latest research and studies much of the time. I wish everyone well and good luck with your medical issues.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
and Kathy, its not true that type 1’s only have a 30% lasting success rate. The SVR rate without relapse for first time treaters is 45 to 50 percent.
And frequently people who don’t make it the first time treat again with more medication or for a longer time and find that their second treatment is effective. 99% of the people who remain free of hep for a year after their treatment ends remain cured of the disease.
Also, the studies involving the protease inhibitors (used with interferon) are looking good. A man on our forum who had treated unsuccessfully seven times before on other treatment protocols was in that study and was finally successful with the teleprevir (sp?)
The virus also affects the whole body, not just the liver. There is particular danger to the kidneys, and this has been little focused on in the medical community, but the studies are there, all you have to do is google it. So those who say the treatment is worse than the disease may be kidding themselves. Interferon is not good for you, and it has every likelihood of causing you to have some type of issue later with ra or some other auto immune issue. On the other hand, we watched a young man of nineteen die a couple of weeks ago because they couldn’t find him a liver on time, so for me, dealing with arthritis is a small price to pay to save my liver.
I would encourage anyone with hep c to see a hepetologist at a teaching hospital as most physicians, even gastroenterologists, know very little about the disease. Shockingly little in some cases.
December 23rd, 2008 at 7:11 am
Sydney,
No one is making a fortune out of MMS - you can make it yourself. You are assuming it is a bogus cure - you do not know that
January 16th, 2009 at 5:04 am
I would NOT take Sydneys advice.
If some benefit from interferon recombinant treatment good for them. Many have severe side effects that destroy thier quality of life, stating the cure was worse than the disease.
I was on the recombinant treatment for 4 months and felt it damages part of your brain and nervous system. You just dont seem to feel the same as you did before you took it.
I have not tried MMS, however, I am going to give it a go. I was giving myself ozone injections which was working well until my veins collapsed. Interestingly enough, what worked the BEST was when a whole church came and prayed for me…all my liver enzymes dropped the most…
I am taking ‘threelac’ to get rid of candida first, with Pau d’arco and coconut oil. I am also taking maple syrup and pure (aluminium free) bicarb of soda, (follow protocol recipe) which kills cancer cells, …. first….Threelac targets only candida like ‘pac-men’ according to reports….
…then, I am going to take MMS to see how things go…all in stages…Threelac is giving ‘die-off’ symptoms…
the bob beck protocol is also an interesting method which has worked for hep C apparantly quite well…
take care, and may God guide you
January 20th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Well, I have hcv 1a and am taking MMS. I am up to 15 drops 2 times per day & have just read that I should go up to 15 drops THREE times per day.
The blood tests are a fortune so I am waiting a bit. I still get more tired than normal folks.
Any suggestions or ideas are very much appreciated. Thank you.
P. S. I also do well eating more ‘raw foods’.
February 28th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Hi there,
I have hep C since 1995, I’ve been treated with interferon about ten years ago. It didn’t help. My genotype is 1a. I don’t like my doctor’s approach.He almost killed me doing the biopsy.I know it was an accident, but I completely lost trust in him. So I stay away as much as possible, only go to hospital for blood tests.
I’ve been doing alternative treatment for years. Homeopathy, milk thistle, healthy food, spirituality….and now, MMS. I was sceptical when I first heard about it but after reading a whole lot about it and testimonies from people, I started to trust it and wanted to do the treatment.
I’ve been on MMS for almost a month now, got to 15 drops, but I could not do it for more than a few days, I was too sick. No vomiting, no diarhea, just sick somehow, headaches, lower energy, some outbursts on skin, some liver pain here and there for a moment. I changed my protocol to less drops more times a day, I get about 30 drops a day into my body at the moment. I finally got nauseous, but I’m not sure if it’s the mms treatment or I just cought a cold. My lip herpes also bursted out.
Well, I’m not feeling any better, I can tell you that, but I believe in MMS and will continue to take it and go get my blood&liver tests soon.
Thank you for all your posts. It’s great to keep each other informed like that.
all best, G.
March 19th, 2009 at 10:07 am
hello folks! i also have hep. c/genotype 1b, and i think about to try MMS, so i am very interested if MMS can heal my body from the hep. virus. thank you for your postings! kind regards from europe
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:25 am
There has been a different protocol advised for taking MMS for Hep C.
It involves taking smaller doses more frequently. Am not sure of the exact protocol but it is displayed on official MMs websites and in one of their recent newsletters.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
Matt,
Can you post links to the Hep C protocol you have found on the MMS sites. I haven’t seen this. I would appreciate it. I am up to about 12 drops twice a day.
If ANYONE would be brave and kind enough to post Hep C lab results with name/ss# and private info blacked out that would be absolutely great. Some of us could really use solid data rather than posts that are really ads for health food stores etc.
I have a friend who strongly advocates Dr. Hitt’s Ozone therapy for Hep C in Tijuana. Has anyone tried that or had any experience with that?
Thank you for your postst!!!
best, longlife in the Bay Area
June 30th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I just want to say a few words regarding what I have read in some of these messages above.
First of all the statement that ” nothing can kill the virus except Interferon and Ribavirin” is not correct. Neither one kills the virus.
One, Ribavirin, interferes with its replication and the other, Interferon, just mediates immune system changing it to a more efficient mode. What realy kills the virus, folks, is our immune system that have evolved over millions of years doing this job not only with Hep C but to any other type of invader.Failing to recognize that point is just blunt ignorance.
By the same token it is not antibiotics that kills germs. They merely interfere with germs reproduction, respiration, you name it but its ultimately our immune system that destroys the germs.
I have bad news for those who have used interferon and are declaring themselves as “cured”. You still will have to wait for a few years before you can really say that.
Also the numbers game is played by the pharma companies in thier favour and being a retired scientist I know how to make a clinical study looks beter than it really is by simply declaring non responders as non complaiants and removing them from the study but the real truth is that we all know that 1a and 1b are the most hard genotypes to treat. I know Medical Professors that have had dozens of patients and had never beeen able to cure any 1a and 1b. This is real life . This is not the numbers game played by those interested in selling drugs protected by the law.
We really don’t know how MMS works. See, Jim Humble, has very little knowledge and he only guesses what is happening based on his experiences in Africa. Whoever reads his book will see that the man doesn’t not have the ability to carry on a task so complicated as to find out how the compound works inside the human body. There are only guesses and sometimes not even educated guesses.
We don’t know how it works inside the human body. Period.
As far as long term issues are concerned this compound has been registered from treating food and for treating water and therefore I assume that all toxicological work has already being done prior to its aproval as a desinfectant for food stuff and also for water treatment, right ?
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
@Jose: ok, but what’s the point?
July 4th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
I have hep c and some kind of chronic flu for 7 months. I took MMS a few months ago and after a few days, it felt like the flu was rapidly leaving and I was getting my energy back. but I had to stop because I got bad diarrhea and cramping and then it turned to alternating constipation like IBS for a couple of weeks. so the flu came right back and is now chronic. I did get up to 15 drops twice a day in less than a week. perhaps I will start back at 1 drop twice a day and work my way up.
to say that hep c is only killed by interferon and ribavarin certainly shows a sort of brainwashing by the media and pharm industry., And the side effects are real and tremendous,. I know many who did the treatments and got very sick and only one cleared the virus supposedly and came down with liver cancer two years later. My old GI doc was against it unless you were pretty far advanced . he was a mainstream doc and still said it is too toxic for the body. I wonder if MMS is toxic too since it is mostly chlorine and tastes like bleach. Still it did seem to be rapidly eliminating my flu. I think I will go at it again more judiciously and have patience. what is some diarrhea and IBS compared to a year of side effects from the chemo? no comparison. especially since the chemo side effects often precipitate horrible diseases and permanet nervous system damage. Flick
July 16th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
MMS and hep c get a variety of results. Be sure to get your liver enzymes and all tested. Some people with hep c have not done well on MMS.
July 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I’m beginning MMS for Hep C and for the lovely side affect of Hep C, oral lichen planus (psoriasis of the mouth). If this works, I will know right away because the lichen planus will diminish or disappear. I am at the stage in lichen planus where I have blisters throughout my mouth and on my lips and must eat soft foods and drink out of a straw. So trust me, I will let you guys know how this goes!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:56 am
all these people who have tried mms on hep c, what is the results? i have not seen any clear answers.
August 19th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
About hepatitis C !!!!! Information read states that an actual *cure* really is possible. Info relating to that (but different) was read in the super paperback “The Alpha Lipioc Acid Breakthrough” by Bert Berkson, MD, Ph.D. Some of the info in that book was amazing! Later it was read that this same Dr. Berkson (who may still be practicing in Las Cruces, NM) had found a way to actually *cure* hepatitis C! He used (approx.) 600 mg per day of ALA (lipoic acid) and 900 mg per day of Milk Thistle along with an unspecified amount of “branched chain” amino acids (whatever that is). Those supplements were to be taken in about three separate divided doses. One would also take 400 mcg (micrograms) daily of selenium. Also the patient is not allowed to consume more that four (4) ounces of meat per day. At a symposium near his part of the U.S. a big meeting was held of people interested in curing hepatitis, including some physicians. I’d once got a paper off the internet that was put there by a former patient who had been treated in Germany and was cured of hepatitis by using this Dr. Berkson’s terrific method. By this time that paper has been lost and I CAN’T find ANY mention of it oneline - could not find it a year ago. Methinks that it’s possible the U.S. medical establishment AIN’T interested in having this important therapy of Dr. Berkson’s be generally known. In fact, in Dr. Berson’s book he states he was rather strongly disliked because “he was not a team player”. Berkson has a Ph.D. in a branch of biology, I feel sure. Maybe in fungi. In fact, it was read that Berkon’s SO brainy that he was a visiting professor at Max Plank Institute in Heidleberg, Germany in 1978. It that “good enough” do you suppose?
August 23rd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I am considering MMS…have had Hep C for 35 years…just got brave and did the Fibersure test and thankfully negative…also fine liver results…5 Million VL….I do mostly raw foods and am a little afraid to do MMS since I’m doing really well…but would love to clear the virus…any suggestions?
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 am
My wife (56 years old and in excellent robust health) died three weeks ago 12 hours after ingesting two drops of MMS mixed in lime juice - the initial dose recommended in Jim Humble’s protocol. She suffered severe and prolonged nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. She thought that those symptoms were to be expected because Humble’s written protocol says vomiting and diarrhea are “not a bad sign”. After suffering those effects for eleven hours, my wife went into a coma. One hour of CPR plus other conventional emergency medical procedures failed to revive her. She had decided to try MMS because she succumbed to the arguments of its proponents that MMS could aid in protecting the two of us against malaria in our current travels in the western Pacific islands. MMS is a dangerous and potentially lethal substance if ingested as a medical remedy.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Dear Mr. Nash,
I am really, really sorry to hear of your wife passing away, it must have been a huge shock. It’s just incredible that your wife had these symptons after only two drops of MMS. As you know thousands and thousands of people have taken MMS, myself included. Maybe people need to listen to their own bodies and intuition (not others with good ideas or their doctors) regarding what to ingest or what treatments to take. A little still quiet time and asking God, Angels, Universe, Source, whatever name you call it for direction….if you are patient you will get guided….
October 10th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Im very sorry to hear that D. Nash. Maybe you could produce an article or mortuary about your wife. I’ve never heard of anyone going into a coma because of the MMS induced nausea and vomiting, and I’d like to know more. As you may understand, there are many people trying to muddy the waters surrounding MMS. Heck there are many people trying to muddy the waters about medicine and health in general. Yes, I am in way insinuating that you may have fabricated your story, but please understand my skepticism.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Think of trying the Bob Beck Protocol.
The Blood Purfier kills all pathogens in the blood and the Magnetic Pulser Kills the pathogens in your lymph nodes, teeth and tissues where blood doesn’t flow very much.
I have Hep C and Herpes. After a month on the Beck Protocol I had a very massive outbreak of Herpes. I haven’t had any outbreaks or indications for over 3 months now. I even eat foods high in L-Arginine which helps cause Herpes outbreaks. I plan to stay on the protocol for 6 months, take a break then use it again for 2 to 6 months.
Reason for this is I don’t believe in any 2 or 3 week cure because it took a month using the protocol to get the herpes to come out. I hope it was Herpes last ditch effort to fight back and was eradicated.
As far as Hep C goes I don’t have a clue as I will wait for 1 year before I test my viral load again. Before starting the Beck Protocol my viral load was 1,000,000. I was on the Lloyd Wright herbal plan for 4 years. All my blood work is absolutely normal and had no symptoms but I still had the virus. So I switched to the Beck Protocol.
I started the MMS protocol 1 week ago and will build up until I’m at 15 drops 2 or 3 times a day and hold it there for a month. I use the Beck Protocol in the morning and then in the afternoon and evening I use MMS.
May seem like overkill but frankly I’m tired of Hep C and really, really tired of Herpes messing up my life.
Last week I started using MMS and slo
November 6th, 2009 at 6:01 am
I am trying to get funding for Transfer Factor as a Russian study showed it eliminated Hep C better than Interferon and Ribaviron.
I have that study stored somewhere if people want it.
I am finding 4 mins of Bioptron Light colour therapy brilliant for brain fog too.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:52 am
I also use a thick pulpy Aloe Vera that also gives me great psychological well being really quickly, especially when I haven’t had it for a while, so hoping to do 2 bottles of that a week plus Transfer Factor plus blood electrification.
Oh and the overnite liver flush is awesome.
For more detail, I have just created a group groups.google.co.nz/group/hep-c-remediesandcures specifically for viable Hep C remedies based on the end-user eg your and my experiences of alternatives.
I also like the idea of a Skype support group where we can actually talk to each other.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:59 am
I’ve been reading MMS on many different forums on the web and Mr Nash’s comment have showed up.
I believe Mr Nash is nothing more than just an agent for the government (FDA) and attempted to discredit Jim Humble’s work.
I personally know that MMS works very well IF it is use properly.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
I’m not taking mms, but am using milkthistle,r-alpha lipoic acid, TMG, NAC, several other herbs, pink grapefruit bioflavinoids, and anything else that looks like it will aid my immune system and limit fibrosis. My intent is to try and limit liver damage as much as possible until peginterferon and ribavirin are no longer relevant, and that time may not be that far away. It seems that the pharmeceutical companies are desperate to keep their ******* poison in the treatment regimen at all costs. They are even fighting experimentation with Protease/Polymerase inhibitors without Peginterferon/ribivirin, because…and get this…it isn’t “ethical to withhold SOC”, the only “proven” way to kill the virus. As a result, this SOC-free experimental treatment can only be conducted outside the USA!! SOC…”proven” cure??? Are they kidding? The REAL cure rate for Genotype 1’s who want to treat is more like 25% if the patients aren’t cherry-picked, and if the patients who quit early in the treatment because of horrible side effects ARE COUNTED in the final results. I’m sick of all the afficiando’s claiming 50% or more svr’s for gen 1’s, when major clinics in the real world are only showing 35-40% at best. Research it if you don’t believe me! That kind of real-world cure rate combined with nearly unbearable side effects “most” of which disappear upon completion of treatment. MOST??? That means that an undetermined number of them will stay with you. By the way, how do you like the last sentence of the Ribavirin warning. “Ribavirin is a powerful mutagen, and should be considered a potential carcinogen”. Nice huh. How many years down the road before we find out the truth on just this issue. Chances of actually progressing to HCC for untreated chronic Hcv is actually quite low. Check for yourself. Other side effects that never go away, and produce a low quality of life for some ammount to an overall poor gamble in my opinion. Especially for folks with minimal symptoms from their hcv infection. For your information, I have had gen 1-b for nearly 40 yrs., and as of the last BX a grade 3, stage 2 to 3…”Early bridging fibrosis” infection. I am waiting and hoping.
December 31st, 2009 at 11:35 am
Thanks all for the information. I have Hep C genotype 2b at least since the test became available 1989. I live in Ajijic, Mexico a place where alternative treatment is available. A day after I arrived I walked past a Doctors Office and noticed he did Ozone therapy. As an aside my girlfriend is from Germany where Ozone is an accepted treatment protocol with many studies available. So I started treatment. For two months. When I started my Viral Load was 2,500,000. As I am now trying IV Hydrogen Peroxide therapy. Basically the same idea that the virus can not survive in an oxygen rich environment. But before I wanted to get a baseline on my viral load. It dropped to 700,000. I have been taking Milk Thistle, Alpha Lapoic Acid and Selenium for years as I have seen incredible reports..I am starting MMS and MMS2 tomorrow. The first line of treatment in Japan is H09 It is still available in the States. But not here due to customs issues…It is also under Clinical Trial at Sloan Kettering in New York. BTW I would not believe a thing published by Big Pharma in the states. I will continue to post my results. And yes I believe the immune system with a bit of common sense will clear my virus.
Blessings and Good Health
February 6th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Ozone therapy, available in Hilo Hawaii, California and only a few other states is well worth researching further. It has drastically improved my friends hep c condition.
Home units for rectal treatments using ozone are relatively inexpensive, about a grand.
The medical grade units are preferred…
Aloha
February 9th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Wow - stumbled on this page while looking up MMS for a friend ….. and feel moved to relate my experience re: hep C .
My husband is one of the ” success ” stories big pharma refers to , and I wait with baited breathe for sign of cancer or relapse - it has been 8 years now. We researched milk thistle and alternative therapies , the Dr. told us it could affect the effectiveness of the Rebetron(ribavirin/interferon ). My husband based his decision on 3 factors : advancing age (52) , good liver condition , healthy lifestyle ; we were told we needed to make a quick decision . We went to an ” informative ” workshop that was so incredibly depressing we never went back ; most health professionals were hesitant to get too involved , thus the feeling of isolation and the term “heper leper” . His first biopsy was a miserable failure ( technician failed to locate his liver … ), a second biopsy was performed and he started treatment . A full year of HELL ensued . Due to our remote location , with no medical training , I gave my husband injections of Rebetron 3x / week for a year . He was a real trooper despite the nausea and near suicidal depression ; towards the end he was like a pincushion . We did this alone , only the involvement of the Dr. , periodic blood samples , etc. My husband turned into an unrecognisable monster ; anyone who has gone through this treatment with a loved one knows exactly what I’m talking about . Divorce is the biggest casualty of Rebetron treatment . We made our way through it but we have since met others who have done the treatment ( unsuccessfully ) and divorced . We also have a friend who was treated (successfully)and then had to battle cancer . My advice to any couple involved with this chemical combo is : expect the worst qualities to appear and know that it is the toxins taking over . Websites like this would have been a blessing . Hep C treatment should NOT be endured alone , reach out and stay strong.
February 13th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
The liver is the organ that stores our passions and emotions. After interferon treatment, I have not felt like the same person. That was nine yrs ago. My husband left me as he was afraid he would contract hep c. After an eleven month regimen of interferon, the virus showed up again after 3 monthes. Where did this virus come from? A labratory?
Is this one of the ’slow-kill’ techniques in global population reduction? I contracted mine in the hospital during
an outpatient procedure. Does this virus have an alien origin? One thing to remember, is that the creators of this
virus, will not create w.o. an antidote, in case they themselves need the cure. God bless us all.